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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:58 pm

I totally agree and thought the same exact thing!!! I would never! I'm there to see TGA and those are the songs I want to hear!
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:37 am

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Why does it seem like covers are requested so much? I kept hearing people in the crowd yell for GA to play non-GA songs. I've noticed this with other artists too.

Personally, I would never request a band to play someone else's song. Even if they have done it before, it just seems kinda insulting (as in, of all the songs to request, you pick the one the band didn't write?).

100% agreed. While I do have my favorite covers that I enjoy hearing on occasion, I'd much prefer that they did not take up one of the already limited number of spots on the set list.  

And I agree about the insulting part for the same reasons. I mean, there's nothing wrong with really liking a cover, but considering you can't pick the set list, and assuming you likely have several favorites by that artist that you are hoping to hear, and that you only MAYBE have a shot at getting ONE of those favorites played via shouting for it, why would you choose the cover? To me that means you like the cover better than your favorite song by the artist you paid to see. I mean that's okay for you, but I'd think it would be lousy for that artist.

On another note, it sounds like the pre-shows are starting to develop into quite a wonderful experience. After the one I attended, I said I enjoyed it but probably wouldn't do it again. From hearing about how it's changed show to show, I would gladly do it again, if I could solve the line problem Rolling Eyes.

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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:33 am

Sometimes the band and crowd can bond over a cover and it makes the show more fun. In some cases I like an artist's cover better than the original (see: Dave Hause "Ghosts On The Boardwalk"). I love "Baba O'Riley." While Gaslight's version isn't wildly different, somehow I like it better when they do it. Different strokes, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:52 am

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Sometimes the band and crowd can bond over a cover and it makes the show more fun. In some cases I like an artist's cover better than the original (see: Dave Hause "Ghosts On The Boardwalk"). I love "Baba O'Riley." While Gaslight's version isn't wildly different, somehow I like it better when they do it. Different strokes, etc.


Oh don't get me wrong--I absolutely love Gaslight's Baba cover (and every one of their covers for that matter). I just agree with what Stitches said in that suggesting a song implies it is the one song you like most or want to hear most and it is thus potentially insulting to a band with 5 records of their own material. But Gaslight have seemed to embrace their covers so I don't imagine they lose any sleep over it--though I can't imagine they loved the fans I heard screaming "play some Bob Dylan" or "BRUUUUUUUUCE." Come on people, they're not a bar band!
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:14 am

I am totally with you guys - love covers if a band chooses to do them during a set, but shouting for them as a request is a bit much.

Requests are such an interesting thing at something like the pre show - you might shout for a favorite you always love to hear, a bucket list song you've been waiting for or a number of other reasons. I really want to hear break your heart live, and it doesn't seem to be appearing much later in the tour and likely won't be a song from the album that appears in future tours.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:02 pm

"But Gaslight have seemed to embrace their covers so I don't imagine they lose any sleep over it"
Exactly! So I wouldn't say offense is taken on their end that people would like them to play a cover they previously had. Unless it's over-the-top rudeness like last Summer :\

If Brian was like "Tonight we're going to play 'I Do Not Hook Up' instead of 'Great Expectations'" I'd probably be psyched. Although I could understand if someone who doesn't have the luxury of seeing them play all the time would be like "Huh?"

"I can't imagine they loved the fans I heard screaming "play some Bob Dylan""
Anyone screaming any kind of request during a show, whether it be a cover or the band's own material, is completely annoying to me anyway. I get it if the performer asks the crowd if they have any, but during the show, kindly STFU and let them do what they want.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:20 pm

I kind of get the covers requests though. When a band you like covers a song you really like, it connects you. It says, hey, my favourite band also likes this other band I like! And that's cool Smile
Of course everyone prefers to play their own original songs, but covers can be very fun too.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:09 am

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Man, I’ve gotta say—I have no idea how anyone could not be satisfied with the preshow package. Absolutely incredible experience. Worth every last penny. And this is coming from someone who literally did not have the money to buy it and had to convince his wife to let him put it on a credit card. Here are my (lengthy) thoughts for those that are interested:

*I should first note that I have been absolutely obsessed with Gaslight for over 5 years and this was the first time I ever saw them, so my enthusiasm is likely heightened.

First the tour manager came out and gave us the landyards and cameras. Say what you will, but I thought the cameras were a really neat touch. It was a lot of fun hearing the two kids behind me ask their dad why they couldn’t view the pictures and why there was a limit. They then let us in and we all speed-walked to the stage where we could all hear the band playing a slow rendition of Keepsake. Once finished, they played it full speed for us. Next, they played Too Much Blood. At the end, Brian spent 5 minutes telling us all what the song was really about. Next, they played Miles Davis in an alternative tuning. Ian then wanted to fiddle with his new delay pedal (to use for Have Mercy) and Brian talked to us while he did. He gave some background on the recording of Have Mercy and then took questions for 15 minutes or so. He then took requests from us for what we wanted to hear—we chose Selected Poems and Sweet Morphine. Of course, Brian interspersed each with plenty of commentary and interaction. As we were leaving, he was shocked to find out the father of the two kids paid for their pre-show admission and told him to speak with the manager about getting their expenses reimbursed. We then got our Simpsons prints, a chance to buy merch, and were escorted out. All told, the experience took about an hour.


At least for my wife and I, the experience was surreal. Getting to see Gaslight play a five-song set to a crowd of 15, standing comfortably a few feet away, was amazing. It really felt like an intimate experience. Brian did a fantastic job connecting with fans and making the whole experience more than just watching a couple songs. He even asked, “Is there anything you guys want? Now’s your chance to ask!”

For me, it was well worth the money. Think of it like this—would you pay $19 to have Gaslight come play a lesser-played or requested song for you and a couple other people as well as talk to you a bit? Some people would pass—those are the people that shouldn’t do the pre-show. For me, $19/song in this context is a steal. Then again, I may change my mind if I see Gaslight 20 more times (especially in small venues).

The only complaint I can think of is that they played 3 of the songs in the show, which took away from some of the pre-show benefit. But hearing Miles Davis, Sweet Morphine, and Keepsake twice is certainly nothing to complain about!  

I’m not sure if this show was an outlier experience, but if it is the norm, I would highly recommend everyone try it.
Thanks for your feedback on your experience sounds like you had a great time and has increased my excitement for mine in Edinburgh ,Scotland and just wondering about the camera situation is it allowed to take candid pics with your own camera or phone ?

When the manager handed out the cameras, he asked that we don't use any other cameras or phones to take pictures/videos. I imagine the camera situation is a compromise between the band wanting people to enjoy the experience and not hide behind technology the whole time and people wanting to document it. Also, I think they want to keep the pre-show a private experience.

In hindsight, I was happy about them not allowing other cameras. If they had, I would've been worried about capturing it all. Without the option, I could just relax and take in the wonderful experience!
understand what you mean there and i guess it makes it more special and intimate
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:10 pm

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I did the Minneapolis Pre Show and was happy with it.  They were filming a live video for 1,000 Years so there were cameras in there while it was going on (and they played 1,000 Years 4 times).  Off the top of my head they played 1,000 Years, The Navesink Banks, Wherefore Art Though Elvis, Break Your Heart, and Have Mercy (I think there might have been one more but not sure).  Brian took questions for 15-20 minutes and was very sincere in his answers.  They also filmed the entire show later on partially for the 1,000 Years video, but maybe for something else as well?

I was at Pre-show in Minneapolis too.  I loved the Q&A part of it.  My husband asked this: Are there any covers that you as a band have wanted to do and tried, but it just wasn't working out?

BF Answer: Left of the Dial.  (He said there's so much sound within the song, they couldn't capture it)

What was also interesting is that when we were in line waiting to get in for pre-show, several members of First Avenue staff kept coming out of the club and staring up at the building in front of us. For anyone new to First Ave, there are stars painted on the building's exterior with musicians who have played there.  I don't know what the qualifications are toward getting a star but my husband said he thought he heard Brian say they were getting a star. So maybe we'll get to see that when they release the video for 1,000 years.

My sister in law asked Brian about the lyrics to Wherefore Art Thou, Elvis and related to his parents etc.  It was really nice how thoughtful and sincerely he answered everyone's questions even though I'm sure he's heard them all before.  It was a good experience.[/quote

Jwhjr, Turns out I was standing right next to you! Your sister in law and I put our coats/purses under the stage together.  i was the redhead on your right standing  under Alex L.  Next time I'll buy you a beer Smile

Sorry just saw this as I've been away for 3 PJ shows since the Gaslight one. Very cool to put a face to name on the forum here. Next time beer will be on me Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:41 pm

Yay! The downloads are coming through, got my email for Philly!

"Thank you for being a part of our first ever pre-show package. As promised, here is the download for the pre-show you attended. This is one single track of the entire pre-show performance."


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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:54 pm

Received mine from Nashville....are we allowed to share these among ourselves?
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:18 pm

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Received mine from Nashville....are we allowed to share these among ourselves?

If you're asking are we allowed to post this public or make request for copies my initial reaction is no. This arguably is one of the exclusive given to people who buy into the preshow. Its not really fair for the people who bought into it, and arguably paid a good amount of money, if it's just going to be given out for free to anyone who doesn't go. My reaction at least.

Also seeing how the band doesn't want any recordings of the show, and ban digital devices at them, they arguable don't want these handed out to the general public either.

So I would say, no linking to downloads or requesting copies.

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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:52 pm

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Yay! The downloads are coming through, got my email for Philly!

"Thank you for being a part of our first ever pre-show package. As promised, here is the download for the pre-show you attended. This is one single track of the entire pre-show performance."

I received the PNC email today! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:51 pm

Did anyone download their preshow download yet? The PNC was is barely audible - the volume is super low. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:43 pm

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Did anyone download their preshow download yet? The PNC was is barely audible - the volume is super low. Sad

I got the link for Pittsburgh today. Went to download it and the folder is empty. WTF?
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:16 pm

wth, i was at PNC and i didnt even get one??
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:20 pm

nvm i found it yay. i think it got deleted as spam or something!
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:41 pm

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nvm i found it yay. i think it got deleted as spam or something!

How's it sound?
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:25 am

Just got the Kansas City tracks. Only 2 of the 5 were recorded (though I do know Brian said to stop recording during Selected Poems for some "legal reason"). The two aren't the best quality ever, but I'm still stoked with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:40 pm

I was at Chicago's. I was surprised, too. But more so that the whole session wasn't taped - which would have included the Q&A. I can understand why it wasn't, I guess - Brian was pretty direct in saying that the band should layoff talking in the mic when responding so we could hear the responses without an echo (assuming). So it probably wouldn't have been picked up anyhow...dead air. But Chi got far fewer songs than some of the others (I'm not bitching, I'm just stating the fact...). I've heard upwards of 5 or 6 at some of these...it's a shame for those folks that they didn't get them all.

For the guy whose friend got dialed in on the cell phone, I certainly hope that whole thing was captured. Because that's a purty cool moment IMHO.

That said....everything else about the pre-show and show was great, like always. Enjoyed it. With any luck they'll give the US a round #2 in the spring. <-- wishful thinkin'?
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:41 pm

Hmm I wonder what the story is with Selected Poems.
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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:06 pm

Atlanta's pre-show set was great--from songs to sound

Have Mercy and Halloween were excellent

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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:10 pm

Once again guys, out of fairness for people who paid into the preshows and based on the band not wanting any recordings from the shows please no sharing. Thank you.

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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:14 pm

Good point.

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PostSubject: Re: Pre Show Packages   Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:38 pm

It wouldn't surprise me if you saw these preshow recordings go up for sale in the future. Based on when 45rpmclub was first launched they talked about setting up their own boots/downloads thing. And many bands already sell stuff like this...

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