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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:21 pm

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It was the way everything was said. It just seemed to me like there was no respect, it was all about meaningless sex and that was it. I think that's wrong for anyone, male or female. I'm not trying to push my moral standards on anyone else, but I just don't go around thinking, "I want to sleep with him." "I think my dad's friend is hot. Too bad he's married." To me, that's just thinking of someone as an object, not a person with feelings and thoughts and a life. That's how the conversation tonight came across to me. Maybe that's not how you meant it, but that's how I read it. And I don't think I'm the only one with this opinion.

Men think this way. This isn't news.

I realize that most men think this way (not all do, btw), but I still don't have to like it or agree with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:21 pm

I'll agree to that, Shannon.

But please, whatever your opinion on the subject as a whole may be, don't say (Or think) that I have a lack of respect for women. I find the notion absurd.
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:21 pm

not that anyone asked for my opinion, but i dunno... i can kind of see a little of both sides here. were there a couple comments that made me cringe? sure. but for the most part, i don't think they were purposely hurtful. and as Johan said, some of us (just me??) have said things about guys before.

i think it's healthy to have a discussion about this and for people to speak up when they are offended about these things. but i don't think most of what was said was obscene or anything. just someone's opinion that you may or may not agree with.

i also don't think it's fair to say that any person working in the sex industry has been abused or traumatized in some way. that may be true for a fair amount of them, but they don't need us assuming things about them and pitying them.
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:21 pm

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but me not having any feelings for some of the girls doesn't mean I didn't respect them.

Are you still friends with them?
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:23 pm

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but me not having any feelings for some of the girls doesn't mean I didn't respect them.

Are you still friends with them?
I'm close friends with one, others I stay in touch with, some I don't talk to (nor do they talk to me). Why?
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:23 pm

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Can we all just agree to disagree then? I mean everyone here has their own viewpoints and they are completely different from one another. Lets just go back to the craziness that was here before.

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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:24 pm

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:
Yozzy wrote:
IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:
It was the way everything was said. It just seemed to me like there was no respect, it was all about meaningless sex and that was it. I think that's wrong for anyone, male or female. I'm not trying to push my moral standards on anyone else, but I just don't go around thinking, "I want to sleep with him." "I think my dad's friend is hot. Too bad he's married." To me, that's just thinking of someone as an object, not a person with feelings and thoughts and a life. That's how the conversation tonight came across to me. Maybe that's not how you meant it, but that's how I read it. And I don't think I'm the only one with this opinion.

Men think this way. This isn't news.

I realize that most men think this way (not all do, btw), but I still don't have to like it or agree with it.

You're right, you certainly have no reason to like or agree with it, but to be surprised by it is a little silly!
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:25 pm

ARE YOU JOHN OR JOHAN???????????????????? Question
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:26 pm

Anyway, Things are going good with me. Oh, and I believe that relationships should be between two married people. Anyway, changing the topic, How are you doing today guys?
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:26 pm

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I'll agree to that, Shannon.

But please, whatever your opinion on the subject as a whole may be, don't say (Or think) that I have a lack of respect for women. I find the notion absurd.

I have never once thought that about you before. I have a lot of respect for you as a person, but tonight I was bothered by what you said. That doesn't change how I view you, I just didn't like it. People say things I don't like all the time, and sometimes I just can't keep my mouth shut about it, and I don't think I should.
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:27 pm

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ARE YOU JOHN OR JOHAN???????????????????? Question

Someone really needs to teach a spam history class Wink Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:27 pm

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Anyway, Things are going good with me. Oh, and I believe that relationships should be between two married people. Anyway, changing the topic, How are you doing today guys?

...people can't be in a relationship w/o being married? Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:28 pm

steph wrote:
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Anyway, Things are going good with me. Oh, and I believe that relationships should be between two married people. Anyway, changing the topic, How are you doing today guys?

...people can't be in a relationship w/o being married? Suspect
Woops-I meant Sexual relations. I just do not like saying it that way.


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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:28 pm

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ARE YOU JOHN OR JOHAN???????????????????? Question
If you must know, I am Ragnvaldr Järnhand, Son of Thor and ruler of Scandinavia.

But if you must know the truth, my name is John and Steph and Lorraine just like to call me Johan because it's more Swedish.
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:28 pm

Debonair wrote:
saltandburn1967 wrote:
Can we all just agree to disagree then? I mean everyone here has their own viewpoints and they are completely different from one another. Lets just go back to the craziness that was here before.

Agreed. I miss crazy spam. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:29 pm

JimmyB wrote:
steph wrote:
JimmyB wrote:
Anyway, Things are going good with me. Oh, and I believe that relationships should be between two married people. Anyway, changing the topic, How are you doing today guys?

...people can't be in a relationship w/o being married? Suspect
Woops-I meant Sexual relations. I just do not like saying it that way.
Why should it be restricted to marriage, though?
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:29 pm

JimmyB wrote:
steph wrote:
JimmyB wrote:
Anyway, Things are going good with me. Oh, and I believe that relationships should be between two married people. Anyway, changing the topic, How are you doing today guys?

...people can't be in a relationship w/o being married? Suspect
Woops-I meant Sexual relations.

i respect your point of view, but it does seem a bit absurd to only have sex when you are married when we live in a society where app'x. 50% of marriages end in divorce. also, from what i've seen, people who abstain from sex til marriage, then get divorced, don't seem to think they need to abstain from sex until/if they ever get married again. the whole idea just confuses me.


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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:30 pm

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:
Debonair wrote:
saltandburn1967 wrote:
Can we all just agree to disagree then? I mean everyone here has their own viewpoints and they are completely different from one another. Lets just go back to the craziness that was here before.

Agreed. I miss crazy spam. Sad

Things are too serious right now. It is like a dark cloud has covered the spam board and is just hoovering above it.
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:31 pm

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It was the way everything was said. It just seemed to me like there was no respect, it was all about meaningless sex and that was it. I think that's wrong for anyone, male or female. I'm not trying to push my moral standards on anyone else, but I just don't go around thinking, "I want to sleep with him." "I think my dad's friend is hot. Too bad he's married." To me, that's just thinking of someone as an object, not a person with feelings and thoughts and a life. That's how the conversation tonight came across to me. Maybe that's not how you meant it, but that's how I read it. And I don't think I'm the only one with this opinion.

Men think this way. This isn't news.

I realize that most men think this way (not all do, btw), but I still don't have to like it or agree with it.

You're right, you certainly have no reason to like or agree with it, but to be surprised by it is a little silly!

I wasn't surprised by it really, just disappointed that I read some of what I read. That's it. I know how guys think in general, I've been around enough of them in my life to have heard all of this before. But that doesn't make me like it or accept it just because it's "normal".

Okay, I'm done talking about this now. Too stressful and I can't deal with it anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:32 pm

Ben Nichols is hot!
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:33 pm

Harbortown wrote:
DeathoftheCool wrote:
ARE YOU JOHN OR JOHAN???????????????????? Question
If you must know, I am Ragnvaldr Järnhand, Son of Thor and ruler of Scandinavia.

But if you must know the truth, my name is John and Steph and Lorraine just like to call me Johan because it's more Swedish.

hahaha thats pretty funny jocolor
how endearing
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:34 pm

Harbortown wrote:
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steph wrote:
JimmyB wrote:
Anyway, Things are going good with me. Oh, and I believe that relationships should be between two married people. Anyway, changing the topic, How are you doing today guys?

...people can't be in a relationship w/o being married? Suspect
Woops-I meant Sexual relations. I just do not like saying it that way.
Why should it be restricted to marriage, though?
Just my beliefs. What I was raised to believe. I am not going any further in this, since it would go into a religious debate, and I have a feeling a debate like that would lock the spam thread prematurely, and result in some "time outs" for everyone who would be involved. Does that make sense? I am done with the conversation as well. So, what's everyone watching on TV tonight? I have Eureka on.


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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:34 pm

JOHN IS NOT A SWEDISH NAME, I REFUSE TO CALL HIM JOHN.

also, i hate when people name their kids things like Eric Ericson, John Johnson, etc. Frying Pan
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PostSubject: Re: Spam   Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:34 pm

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